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Peter Apps's avatar

Odours which are assumed to be alluring actually being just less repellent might also apply to non-human mammals. One of the many things that I never had time to follow up was analysis of the urine of ewes as they came into oestrus - just before they ovulated the urine lost its odour (to my nose) and the levels of volatiles dropped sharply. Changes like that are guaranteed to confound any search for a chemical that signals sexual receptivity by an increase in abundance - which is the unstated assumption in most studies.

Avery Gilbert's avatar

Yes.

Unstated assumption #1: a chemical signal = presence of a molecule. But what it the signal is the temporary absence or suppression of a molecule?

Unstated assumption #2: a molecule associated with change in biological status is always an evolved signal. What about the case of (E)-2-nonenal, the "aging odor"? It's an unpleasant greasy/gassy smell found in people >40 years old. What's the message? Is it the same message as gray hair? Or are both just epiphenomena of changing metabolism?

Peter Apps's avatar

And which (if either) evolved first - the presence of (E)-2-nonenal in old people, or the perception that it is unpleasant?